WALK + TALK: A BTS OF CURRENT OFFER CREATION (59)
Join me for a walk + talk (poor audio, sorry not sorry) where I humbly get inspired by my own words from previous episodes (listen to Ep #1 and Ep #28), I declare a reclamation of what I'm coining "give no f*cks and deeply give a sh*t" energy and share some vulnerable behind the scenes of my current offer creation.
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Transcript
I'm taking you all for a walk with me.
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:Let's do a little walk and talk,
which I haven't done in a long time.
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:If you've been a long time listener, and
by long time I mean a year and a half.
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:Then you know that I used to do
a lot of walk and talk podcasts.
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:I used to be pushing Aubrey in a
stroller and walking through the
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:neighborhood or what not and just
recording my thoughts and this actually
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:brings me to why I wanted to press
record is because I've been just
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:doing a lot of, I guess reflection and
introspection and I don't even know
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:what the right word is, just like,
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:zooming out I guess, and looking
at the bigger picture of my life.
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:Looking at the context of where I've
been, where I am, where I want to go
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:and in all honesty, like, I've been
in a funny place in my life lately
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:where there's been More self doubt than
usual, and more anxiety than usual, and
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:more fears around being seen, or fears
around just other people's perception.
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:And it's not even so much this fear
of like being misunderstood, but
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:this fear of being wrongly accused.
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:And so I've been Yeah, just
exploring those things.
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:And being a radical and compassionate,
non judgmental witness to those things.
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:And even before coming out for a walk,
I had kind of set the intention that
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:I wanted to record something today.
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:And I was laying in
bed at cycle day three.
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:So, I'm basking in all the blissful
glory of being a bleeding woman.
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:That means for me being as horizontal and
curling up in bed as much as possible.
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:And yeah, I was just like,
no, like I need to move.
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:I need to walk.
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:I need to let this energy that I'm
feeling move through me and I went down
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:a trip down memory lane and listened to
the first episode on this podcast, which
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:was recorded in April of 2023, which
really doesn't feel that long ago, right?
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:That was only like a year and a half ago.
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:And there was so much medicine
for me in that episode.
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:So I encourage you to listen to it too, if
you haven't been with me that long, or if
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:you have, go listen to it again, because
damn, that version of myself was funny.
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:And.
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:I just am so inspired by her innocence and
her playfulness, and the intentions that
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:I set for this podcast still remain true.
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:So it was really, really humbling and
encouraging to tap back into that energy.
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:And then I also listened to, I think it
was episode 28, where I announced the
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:rebrand of this podcast from Not Just a
Mom to what it currently is, Rewild and
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:Free, and share the conception story on
that name and like the meaning for me.
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:And so that was also really inspiring.
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:And I'm laughing at myself saying
that out loud because it's like, how
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:can I be like inspired by myself?
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:But I am.
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:And in the reflections that I've been
making the past couple of days, weeks,
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:months, And noticing this increase
of, like, self doubt and anxiety
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:and bitterness, so much bitterness.
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:Recognizing that that's my not
self theme in human design.
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:Bitterness is my not self theme.
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:So, it's an indication and communication
to me that I am not living in alignment.
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:And so, coming back to those
episodes truly was an inspiration.
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:And An invitation to come back into
alignment and to tap back into those
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:values and those intentions that still
remain true for me today, as well as
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:all of the, like, added evolutions that
I've been experiencing and the added
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:life experience and the Potentially
small shift in values that I've
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:experienced in this year in particular.
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:And.
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:Anyways, I'm beginning to ramble as I do.
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:My intention for this podcast episode
was actually to give you a little behind
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:the scenes on my offer creation process.
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:It's something that I don't hear a lot
of other creators talking about and
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:I notice even as I'm in the middle of
it, I, like I said, I've just felt a
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:lot of self doubt and a lot of anxiety
and a lot of fear creep in and some of
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:that is because I worry that, like, I'm
not doing it right, or I'm not doing
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:something enough, or there's a, there's
a loud flavor of not enoughness in my
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:life right now that I'm also tending to.
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:And,
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:like, a common thread or a through
line in my journey the past
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:couple years has really been about
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:Breaking up with hustle culture
and specifically in business, like
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:boss babe culture, bro, bro marketing
with a dress on it, let's call it.
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:And as I've kind of tapped deeper into
the spiritual world in the past year
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:or so, that has been especially true
because I'm seeing a lot of I don't know.
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:The word that's coming to
mind is like a dissonance.
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:Like there's, there's a lack of
integrity that I'm noticing and
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:I've spoken about this before and
maybe I'll try to find more words to
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:actually create a whole episode on it.
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:Because I do think it's being felt
collectively and people are just having
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:a hard time finding the language for it.
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:Just like I am in this moment.
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:But there's, there's a gap and
there's like a dysfunction and a
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:a recalibration that is needed.
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:Where.
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:Basically, like, heart
and business need to
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:be married in some way, and I'm just
not seeing that in a lot of places.
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:So, anyways yeah, my intention for this
episode is to share a bit about the
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:offer creation process that I'm, I've
been moving through, and just reflect
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:out loud and share this process, because
I think it can be really helpful if you
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:are also a coach, or healer, or doula,
or online someone, someone who creates
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:something in any shape or form, right?
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:Whether it's a course, or a group
program, or a frickin book, or
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:a podcast, or mentorship, like
whatever it is, like I still think
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:this can be really helpful for you.
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:So, it's funny, like when you're walking,
I'm trying to like also be present with
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:nature and my surroundings and I'm also
noticing not so much anymore because now
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:I'm down in a park but when I was still
walking on my street I like did not want
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:to be seen by my neighbors and I did not
want to engage in like any small talk
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:and I don't want to make eye contact and
I don't want people to see and hear what
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:I'm talking about and that is just such a.
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:Mirrored to kind of what I've
been feeling in my life lately.
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:Anyways okay.
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:Coming back to this.
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:So yeah, if you have been following
along, you know that I took a
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:little sabbatical over the summer.
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:So I was mostly off social
media from May to what was it?
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:I think like beginning of September.
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:And so.
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:The past couple months have been
me kind of re emerging and I'm, I'm
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:realizing now that after listening
back to those previous episodes where
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:there was that like innocent, playful
energy, I And like, again, tapping into
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:this, not self human in human design,
bitterness, like I was not bitter in
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:those moments in that season of my life.
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:And I've just been reflecting
on like the difference.
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:And I think one of the differences
is like last, last year.
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:So basically between like April and
October I truly was in this like, Give no
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:fucks kind of energy, but also like deeply
giving a shit about whatever it was that
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:I was passionate about in the moment.
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:And I've kind of lost that and I don't
know where it went or maybe I do.
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:And that could be for a future episode,
but I'm wanting to call that back in
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:wanting to claim it as mine and really,
yeah, just reemerge with that energy
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:because it hasn't really been there
the past couple of months or weeks.
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:And so, That includes bringing you for
a walk with me as I record a podcast.
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:And I can already feel a
bit more pep in my step.
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:And the sun gorgeously shining on my back.
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:And my, my feet.
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:Throat feels more open, so here we go.
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:Thanks for hanging out this long if
you've made it this far into the episode.
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:Here's the actual juice and the, the
part that I wanted to talk about.
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:So, yeah, if you've been following
along I think basically a month
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:ago, I announced that I was going
to impromptly host a full moon.
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:workshop and the intention behind that
workshop was all around transmuting
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:the big fiery energy that comes with
emotions like frustration and anger and
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:resentment and actually glean the wisdom
and the communication from those emotions
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:and turn that like fire into fuel.
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:And in that moment that felt
really Really alive for me.
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:It actually was inspired by a
workshop that I attended and had
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:my own kind of transformation.
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:And, and, and that moment I was
like, Oh my God, I need to share
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:some of this with my community.
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:And so it felt like it was moving
through me, like, like almost like
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:word vomit, like, Oh my God, I
just need to like, let this out.
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:I need to like give this to someone.
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:Which is interesting because Part of my
offer creation process includes being
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:very, very connected and aware of my, what
I kind of call like my cycles of creation.
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:And that includes being mindful
of like where I am in my menstrual
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:cycle and where I am in just my
overall like well being, how much I'm
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:resting, how much time I'm actually.
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:Making for pockets of like creativity
or open channeling to occur,
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:basically like how busy is my life?
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:How full is my plate?
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:How much capacity do I actually have?
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:Also being aware and kind of connected
to the cosmic energy and like full
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:moon, new moon, that kind of stuff.
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:I really don't know that much,
but I'm like learning each day.
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:lunar cycle a little bit more and so
all of that really helps me to hone in
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:on my own like cycles of creation and
understanding that like creation much like
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:nature and things in nature and like the
seasons there's like a rise and a fall
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:and there's I mean like the four parts
right like you spring is like kind of new
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:beginnings seeds are planted you nurture
those seeds so like you With the idea of
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:like creation, it's like you get a new
idea and you're kind of like protecting
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:that idea and sitting with it for a bit.
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:Maybe you're nurturing it, you're kind
of in that liminal space of deciding,
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:like, are we going here or are we just
going to like sit on this one for a bit?
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:You're probably very protective of
like who you even share that idea with
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:because it could get squashed by someone.
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:And yeah, you're just kind
of protecting that seed.
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:And then summer is coming into
that more full bloom energy.
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:So often that looks like
actually launching the thing
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:that you've just created.
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:And that obviously
requires a lot of energy.
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:Launching is.
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:often dysregulating to the nervous
system, and you are highly visible and
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:I mean, you probably know this by now,
but like that spring and summer energy
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:isn't sustainable to be doing all the
time and society has kind of perpetuated
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:this belief or conditioned us to think
that we should be or could be tapping
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:into like spring and summer energy all
the time and that's simply not true.
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:So within the cycles of creation,
we also have fall and winter.
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:And so fall being that time for kind
of like debriefing, whatever it was
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:you created, maybe refining, deciding
how you want to make it better.
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:You're also like harvesting whatever came
out of it, and that could be good or bad.
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:Really it's just like this, this time
to be begin to get introspective and
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:turning inwards and then winter being
that like time for I don't know, voidness
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:is the word that's coming to mind.
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:I don't even know if voidness is a
word, but like that, that void, that
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:true liminal space where you're kind
of in this like sacred pause, you're
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:not necessarily creating anything.
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:But maybe you have seeds that
you're thinking about planting.
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:You're also still.
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:introspective and like reflecting
back on what's worked and what
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:hasn't and you're kind of just
gathering all that information
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:and resting and like regenerating
to get ready for the next season.
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:And I would say that that fall and winter
season is the hardest part of creation.
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:It's uncomfortable.
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:It's when, for me at least, like
the self doubt Creeps in it's when
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:it feels like nothing's working.
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:Sometimes it feels like I'm just
like spinning my tires and things
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:aren't, aren't actually happening.
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:Like it has, it feels slow.
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:There isn't like that outwards growth.
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:So when we think of like society's
definition of success, those outward
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:metrics likely aren't being met.
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:And yeah, I find it can be
really easy to feel like.
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:Something's wrong or that
like, not enough ness energy.
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:You're doing something wrong
and that perpetuates this.
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:this urge to do more.
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:And that's actually the exact
opposite of what we should be doing.
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:And so, coming back to this full
moon workshop that I was trying to
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:create, looking back, I realized
that was a seed that was planted
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:and I probably Acted too fast.
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:I was excited.
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:I was really riding the momentum of
coming back online and filling up my
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:zoom room with people because sharing
that space and Holding space for others
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:really does light me up and fill my cup
up and Basically within like the two
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:days of me announcing I was doing that
workshop and like it was impromptu.
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:It was, I think I literally announced
it on like a Thursday evening and
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:I was going to host it on a Sunday.
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:I realized, oh no, this thing
is way bigger than just a little
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:like live full moon ceremony.
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:I need to like put the brakes on
this, give myself a little bit
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:more space, actually allow this to
breathe and become what it wants to.
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:And so I pivoted.
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:I announced that that workshop
was going to be canceled.
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:It was transforming and evolving into
I then declared a prerecorded training.
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:I thought I was just going to essentially
like record everything I was dreaming up
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:and plop it into a little podcast series
or some sort of like prerecorded training.
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:And.
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:This is where the story gets really
funny because I was already internalizing
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:a bit of shame or judgment for myself
in changing my mind and like not
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:following through on something and
so I told myself to commit or like be
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:devoted to seeing this thing through
because this has been another pattern.
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:I haven't actually seen a
creation of mine through to its
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:entirety since like last April.
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:And obviously when I zoom out and look at
the context of my life that makes perfect
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:sense, but in the moment I was really
just Being quite mean to myself and then
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:you're like, you never finished what you
started and like, you keep abandoning
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:and jumping ship on like your offers.
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:And so you really just need
to see this one through.
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:And so I committed to myself that I
would get this prerecorded training done.
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:And I also had one person purchase it.
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:So I had like that external
validation and external motivation to.
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:Keep me going.
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:And what's interesting is as I continue
to create it and as I continue to
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:stay devoted with the Entity of
this offering it continued to get
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:bigger and bigger and bigger and it
continued to Ask me for more space.
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:It asked me for community and it asked
me for I think a detachment to timelines
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:and I was so resistant to that because I
did have that one sale and I was quickly
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:noticing like my very old and familiar
people pleasing tendencies creep in and
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:want to complete this thing for that
one person and it honestly like gave
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:me a really loud choice point of like,
okay, I can continue to following this
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:old pattern of kind of forcing things.
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:to completion and doing things because I
don't want to let someone else down and
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:in doing all that basically bypass my own
inner wisdom and the communication my body
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:was giving me or I could make a different
choice this time and really honor that
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:like inner wisdom and the wisdom that the
entity of this offering was also giving
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:me in the sense of wanting more space
and wanting community and so I did that.
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:I granted myself a permission slip to
pivot once again and kind of held space
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:for and didn't let the voices in my
head that were telling me that I was
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:being flaky and not falling through
and all those things gave them space
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:to be there because I know they're just
protecting me but also didn't let them
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:take driver's seat in this situation.
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:And ultimately, as soon as I gave
myself the space to pivot once again,
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:this thing has, like, just evolved
in the most, extraordinary way.
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:And I've been able to, get so clear on
who this is for and why I'm creating
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:it and just, what it's turned into.
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:And so, I guess before I share some of
that, I just want to say that, like,
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:Everyone's cycle of creation is going
to be different, and each like cycle of
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:creation for each piece of creation you're
creating is also going to be different.
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:And that's where it gets really, really
tricky because we, I think as humans,
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:really, really like to cling on to
patterns because patterns feel familiar.
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:And so I guess the wisdom here that
I want to share is to just constantly
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:be in connection with like the inner.
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:Wisdom within and the wisdom from your
business and like allow those two Two
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:entities to like co create together and
This is all by the way in the matter
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:of like a two three week period and
while because I did I 85 90 percent done
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:recording for The pre recorded training
that I thought I was creating and the
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:whole time I was recording it I felt this
disconnect and I felt like I don't know
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:this this would be so much more potent
if I was like teaching this live and
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:actually having space for integration and
yeah it just wasn't it wasn't becoming
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:what it was supposed to become and I
actually Like I said, it was like 85
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:percent done and my intention was to
have it as like a little private podcast
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:series and so I had The first couple
episodes plugged into like uploaded to
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:the podcast and I Wanted to listen to
it from like a listener's experience.
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:So I listened from my phone as if like
I was the person that had just like
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:purchased this and as I was listening,
I'm like, oh my god, this is not it.
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:Like this is not what
this was supposed to be.
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:And so there was this moment of like not
feeling proud of what I created and again,
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:I could have kind of let that Really
spiral into like, oh, I'm just being a
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:perfectionist and like done is better
than perfect and like it's okay to be
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:messy, which all those things are true,
but it wasn't actually my perfectionist
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:that was like saying I'm not proud.
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:It was.
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:This, this lack of pride was because
this was out of alignment for me.
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:And it was feeling like something I
didn't even want to talk about anymore.
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:It was feeling like something that
even if I did follow through and
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:finish and, and give access to the
person that purchased, it, it, yeah, it
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:wasn't something that I was proud of.
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:And that's not how I want
to build my business.
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:And so, long story short, I've
obviously like messaged that person
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:and I have given her different
options of how we can proceed.
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:But that in itself was a really
hard decision for me because
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:that isn't modeled to us, right?
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:Like, nobody talks about what they do when
they pivot with an offering that they've
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:potentially already done like a pre sell
for and now they have to decide like if
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:they're offering refunds or if they're
granting like free or discounted access
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:into like the thing that it's evolving
into and like so that was that was that
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:was tricky and I'm I'm proud of myself for
what I decided to do but just naming that
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:like entrepreneurship continues to have
a lot of moments of loneliness in it and
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:The thing is, is we're not actually alone.
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:We just need to start surrounding
ourselves with people that we can
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:have these like conversations with.
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:And yeah, I guess that's why it's
important to me that I actually
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:share some of this stuff out loud.
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:So anyways, now that I've given myself
that giant permission slip, and this was
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:all kind of unfolding like last week.
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:So now that I've given it space
and I've allowed it to evolve into
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:what it wanted to evolve into,
things like I have never felt.
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:This much clarity and even
saying like, I have clarity in
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:my business feels so unfamiliar.
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:There's like construction going
on, so I'm going to turn around.
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:It's also kind of crisp outside,
so my nose is starting to run.
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:I apologize for the sniffles.
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:I'm also walking by like, I
guess it's like a Beaverdam?
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:I don't even know.
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:It's kind of weird to like be on a walk
and talk but you can't see what I see.
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:Podcasts are weird.
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:You might be like driving or maybe
you're doing the dishes or maybe you're
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:like half falling asleep and not even
listening right now or maybe you have
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:like a kid pulling on your pant leg saying
they pooped their pants or something.
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:I don't know.
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:So anyways, yeah, I've given this
thing some space and I'm just
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:really, really excited for what it is
becoming, what it's like evolving into.
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:And so I obviously don't have all
of the pieces laid out, but I would
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:like to share what I have so far.
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:And that is it's going
to be a group program.
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:I don't see it so much
as a training anymore.
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:I actually see it evolving into
what I'm going to call a retreat.
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:Because I think we all need more rest and
rejuvenation in our lives and we don't
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:need more strategy and we don't need more
things to just kind of fill our minds.
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:We need opportunities to be in community.
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:We need opportunities to untangle some of
the threads that we are probably feeling
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:alone while trying to untangle ourselves.
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:We need to be witnessed by others.
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:like hearted women and we need to also
witness others because I have been in
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:so many circles and group spaces where
there's so much medicine in witnessing
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:myself through witnessing someone else.
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:And so I'm reminded of that all the
time and I think that was the biggest
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:disconnect that I was feeling when I was
trying to make this into a pre recorded
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:training is like the community aspect and
being able to Hold space and give space,
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:like set the pace for integration, because
when it was just the prerecorded training,
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:it was something that would have been
bingeable and likely something that people
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:would have listened on like 2x speed.
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:And like when we're consuming in that
way, we're just really bypassing that,
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:that opportunity for deeper integration.
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:So anyways, yeah, it's going to be
like this, this virtual online retreat.
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:I plan to still include all of the
stuff that I already had prepared
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:for the prerecorded training.
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:And spiraling off from the first iteration
of this when it was just a full moon
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:workshop, I'm still including kind of
what I'm now calling emotional alchemy.
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:So really giving space for some
of those big fire emotions like
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:frustration and anger and resentment and
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:Ultimately, creating safety in our
bodies so we can actually, raise
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:them, and then express them, and then
glean the wisdom from them, and like,
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:see the communication that's there.
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:And also just give language to,
like, the water we swim in, the
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:societal conditioning around.
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:emotional regulation and
like emotional alchemy.
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:And then from there really
getting into like identity work.
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:And this is where it was starting to
feel so big and this is where I stopped
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:it from just being a full moon workshop.
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:Cause I'm like, oh wait,
this isn't it anymore.
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:This has nothing to do
with the full moon even.
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:And this is where like the
community aspect I think is
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:going to be so, so potent.
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:And so the identity aspect being.
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:So often that like spinning tire energy
that comes with like frustration and anger
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:and like, I don't know, almost all the
things that I've been working through.
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:This is the other thing is literally
like every time I create the
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to deepen my embodiment with.
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all of the things that I shared
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because it's all an invitation to.
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alive and embodied identity.
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like things are not fitting anymore.
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and anger and resentment might be
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you're doing, whatever you're trying
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or, And your whatever relationships,
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need to try new things on for size.
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:Yeah, this identity piece feels really
really big and I'm still finding the
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it and like express and Articulate the
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the next piece that also was feeling
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recorded bingeable podcast series was
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nobody's talking enough about and
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:that's like the nervous system frequency
attunement that needs to happen to like
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:We can We can kind of call in
wherever it is we're trying to go,
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like the change in behavior and the
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feels so unsafe to our nervous system.
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:So we're constantly
experiencing like this.
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:This pushback or this like, well,
ultimately like often experiencing freeze
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And what's really happening is like, we aren't attuning the frequency
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capacity to hold space for that next
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:embodied evolution of ourselves.
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:Like we are.
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:Mentally, mentally, we're increasing
capacity and we're holding the vision
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to be, but somatically in the body,
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:the body isn't being tended to, to
match where the mind is trying to go.
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mind body disconnect.
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nervous system work is so, so potent
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:I feel like everyone and their dog is
talking about like quantum leaps and
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:timeline jumping and like, just like,
step into like the, your most like
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:confident coach air, whatever it is.
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:And it's like, okay, cool.
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:Logically, I think we can all kind
of get on board with that, even
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:though we can also see where we might
be like, caught in our own shit.
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:But somatically, the body needs
to be supported through that too.
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:So, long story short, this
little retreat isn't so little.
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:It's probably going to be like an 8 or
12 week experience where we get to Just
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:I don't know, I feel like I said
way more than I was planning to.
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:And I don't even know if I'm gonna
publish this whole conversation or not.
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:Cause I feel like I've
been all over the place.
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:And I'm also just trying to
accept that this is who I am.
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:And I should probably call this podcast,
like, Does That Even Make Sense?
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constantly, Just asking like,
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:I have such a hard time or it feels
like I have a hard time articulating
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:what's actually going in my head, going
on in my head and going on in my heart.
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:And that, that fear of it
not making sense to someone.
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:Absolutely getting in my way because
it's making me self censor and making
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:me ultimately just like not show up
because I feel like I haven't completely
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:formulated a polished enough thought
and I'm breaking up with that right now.
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:Trusting that the people that need to
hear this will hear this and they'll
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:resonate with some of the pieces I'm
sharing and obviously the more I start
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:talking about this, The more clear
and more articulate it will become.
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:And I know that from
previous creations as well.
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:And so, I think the other things I
wanted to touch on were in the process
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:of all of this like going all the
way back to the past year and taking
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:time offline in the summer and coming
back and noticing what was happening.
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:this bitterness and really trying to
be intentional about like matching
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:my capacity and all of those things.
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:I've also been deepening my understanding
of my own human design and also uncovering
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:a layer of neurodivergence and that's
something that I haven't talked publicly
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:about yet and I guess I just said it but
I'm still making sense of all that and
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:it's helping me to better understand.
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:The way that I just kind of exist in the
world and the way that my brain works and
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:the way that creation moves through me.
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:And so I just wanted to mention that
here because, again, I think, Nobody is
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:talking about all of this all together.
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:And there's just so much nuance.
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:And so when we're constantly being
fed these,, oh, here's how to create
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:a sold out offer in two seconds,
like all the nuance is missing.
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:And then of course, like people invest
because we're also told that you need to
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:spend money to make money or whatever that
marketing Agenda is, but then what happens
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:is we like do all these things and we try
to follow all these like proven frameworks
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:and strategies and then we walk away and
it's not working and it feels misaligned
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:and we're feeling whatever our not self
theme is in human design and then we end
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:up thinking like well I'm just not good
enough or I need to do better next time,
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:I need to make more content or I need
to write more emails or I need to find a
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:better way to Coach, or try a different
strategy, or Have a stronger mindset.
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:Ew.
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:It's none of those things.
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:We don't need to do more.
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:We don't need to force.
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:We don't need to push.
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:We don't need to, like, strengthen
anything except our connection to
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:ourselves, and began tending to like
our animal body and reconnecting
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:with the wisdom of our inner genius.
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:And so, I feel like my experience
is completely validating that.
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:And so I'm excited to speak more
on it and I'm excited to I mean, I
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:obviously don't have a proven framework
to show you, but I'm excited to
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:continue to share my process out loud
and help you find your own process.
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:I also have a couple other things.
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:That feel really exciting, kind of
leading up to this group retreat, and
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:that is just bringing more language
to ultimately, like, the water we swim
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:in, in the sense of hustle culture,
and like I mentioned at the beginning,
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:like, This dissonance, especially in, I
think, like, the conscious and spiritual
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:spaces where ultimately we're being fed
this, this, like, more conscious way
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:of doing business, but it's still just
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:So, I really want to shambler my
perspective on that and offer you
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:a vision to hold on to and a new
paradigm to enter, ultimately.
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:So, yeah, more to come.
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:I'm starting to feel tired.
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:I'm going to head back home now.
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:It's also quite windy, so I don't
know how the audio is going to be.
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:And my nose is severely
running, so I need to catch it.
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:Okay, talk to you next time.